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or not our political system, whether the leaders can get together, whether they can solve big problems or are they just going to kick the can? if you look at the statements of the rating agencies who have questioned the fiscal soundness of this country, it's about our political system, not being willing or able, seemingly, to take on big tasks. >> the president may be confident about a larger plan but senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, one of the key lawmakers involved in negotiations says he thinks a $4 trillion deal is off the table. >> everything they've told me and the speaker is that to get a big package would require big tax increases in the middle of the economic situation that's extraordinarily difficult with 9.2% unemployment. it's a terrible idea. it's a job-killer. >> after last night's white house meeting, house minority leader nancy pelosi said democrats are still hopeful for a large bipartisan agreement as long as it does not do harm to the middle class. and aides to john boehner says the speaker now believes the cuts outlined by vice president biden's bipartisan gro
"morning joe." now time for "the daily rundown". >>> big disappointment on the job front. employment stalled, unemployment rises to 9.2%, stock futures dropping big-time on the news. the president will address the numbers later this morning. >>> no deal yet, but president obama and congressional leaders will work all weekend and instead of barbs we're hearing words like "constructive" and "productive." optimism abounds as a deal is truly in the works. both sides seem prepared for seergs concessions. what do these jobs numbers mean and will they hold up a deal as it gets rid of a lot of other issues at this point? >>> and with outside groups set to pour millions into the 2012 race, what's an incumbent pro president to do? is fighting fire with fire the answer? it's friday, june 8, 2012. >>> also this morning, waiting the final shuttle launch. will weather clear in time? and we've honored a departed friend you've invited into your living rooms for decades. >>> this jobs report, we thought the big news today would be the debt talks, but a stunning jobs report, gain of just 1
of a short term budget deal in the bud. calls leaders back to the white house. define big. a fresh new hampshire poll out find mitt romney holding strong. both in the primary and general but michelle bachmann has made big gains. is it time for republicans to start rally ago rounds a single candidate? some leaders think so. we'll ask the head of the republican party whether he agrees. and look at these pictures. it's a massive -- this is real. not special effects. 50 mile dust storm. it envelopes phoenix, arizona. downed trees. delayed flights. cut off power to thousands. not rain, folks. dust. wednesday, july 6, 2011. i'm chuck todd. let me get to my first reads of the morning. the idea of a short term debt deal gaining momentum in the senate. president nipped that talk in the bud. >> heard reports that there may be some in congress who want to do just enough to make sure that america avoid defaulting on our debt in the short term but then wants to kick the can down the road when it comes to solving the larger problem of our deficit. i don't share that view. >> the president's public s
the table. >> to get a big package would require a big tax increase in the middle of the economic situation that's extraordinarily difficult with 9.2% unemployment. it's a terrible idea. it's a job-killer. >> reporter: on sin's "meet the press," treasury secretary tim geithner said failing to reach a deal would be catastrophic. >> we need to do something substantial to bring our long term deficit down over time. >> reporter: the stakes high as the two sides try again today. so, the president will be answering questions at a press conference scheduled for 11 a.m. eastern time this morning. he'll then meet with congressional leaders this afternoon. he's asked republicans to bring specifics for their plan. >> thanks so much. a reminder for you, we'll have live coverage of the president's news conference beginning at 11 a.m. eastern time right here on msnbc. the place for politics. >>> officials at nasa are closely monitoring a piece of so-called space junk, which is on a potential collision course with the space shuttle "atlantis" and the international space station. nasa estimates that the ob
not be willing or able to, seemingly, take on big tasks. >> that happened all this week. kristin is live at the white house. a lot of talk. we're one day closer to that deadline. what can we expect to hear from the president in the next hour? >> hi there, richard. we expect the president to continue to push to get a big deal. what's a big deal? about $4 trillion in deaf sigz reductions over the next decade. at the end of last week, it looked like he and speaker boehner were moving towards the same page in terms of trying to get a big deal. that fell apart over the weekend. so we expect the president to resume calls for a big deal to say now is the time to seize the moment. there will be political pain on both sides. what he means by that is the democrats will have to come to the table over entitlements, making small changes to things like social security and medicare and the republicans will need to come to the table in terms of rolling back tax break for wealthy corporations and americans. as you said, richard, he's going to hammer this point that they will continue to work until they g
today? >> this wouldn't be the big deal if this is the only day, but this is day after day the spring into the summer. then let's pile on a top of humidity. that gets to the people and aggravates everyone. this is where the center of the heat is. right over the top of the eastern half of the country with the exception not being up in the great lakes. this is already the heat index. what time is it? it's 10:00. we are at 105 already in louisville. areas of memphis, nashville and st. louis are right behind. the worst has been centered over the ohio river valley and southern indiana. later today, this is my forecast heat index. this is how hot i'm predicting it's going to get. the worst is up here with the dew points at the highest. we are thinking 110 in louisville, 110 in nashville. i've got my money on 115 in memphis as the hottest heat index in the country. it goes from oklahoma city to the east coast. this is one of the first humid days we had from new york to deep, deep baltimore, raleigh. you go down the coast with no exceptions. this is historic in oklahoma city. we now had 13 da
's here to dish on the debt and deal in taxes. and big money, big problems? mitt romney's campaign is debt free, but where is all that money coming from? we'll tell you why it could add up to a little bit of trouble for the republican front-runner. good morning, it's monday, july 18th, 2011. i'm chuck todd. just 15 days until default day. let's get right to my first reads of the morning. it's a week of public spectacle and private wrangling. efforts to get a big debt deal done has failed. >> when you look in the past at agreements between divided government, it's taken leadership on both sides. it took reagan and o'neil. it took clinton and gingrich. the president is out there. he's willing to do it. he said it in the state of the union, he said it in the budget. the question is, do we have a partner to work with? and i hope the answer to that is yes. >> this week we'll see a two-track process. publicly, leaders will get a few votes out of the way to allow conservatives to get on the record on a balanced budget amendment and set the table that nothing besides the final deal can pass. meanw
with the big debt talk. congressional leadering returning to the table this morning, after the grand bargain broke down last saturday and a tense 75-minute meeting last night failed to move negotiations forward. at 11:00 this morning, the president will hold a news conference to press publicly for his big deal. yesterday, his top economic adviser said the u.s. is out of options. >> we make 80 million checks a month to americans, 55 million people on social security benefits, millions more americans on veterans benefits, medicare, medicaid. people who supply our troops in combat. on august 2nd, we're left with cash on hand and the cash we take in. there is no credible way to give congress more time. there's no constitutional option, there's no delay option, there's no creative financial option. they have to act by the 2nd. >> no constitutional option, 14th amendment, off the table. here's what we know, debt talks appear to be at an impasse and here's why. the president is still pushing a big deal. democrats say the fallback plan, this $2 trillion plus package that was partially negotiated in
. it looks like what could be a pretty big tax increase. the spending cuts i think are highly uncertain. it instructs the various committees of the senate and the house to come up with these spending cuts. we have no assurance that they will do that. we have no idea how they'll do that. then we asked the senate to vote on that. all of which suggests to me there are a number of ways in which this could fall apart. i give these guys all the credit in the world for really struggling and trying to make some progress on a tough issue. there's no assurance that it results in an outcome. if we can't agree on spending cuts now, why should we suppose at the end of this process which after all has been available to us for two years the senate won't even pass a budget, why we think that this will result in real spending cuts is not clear to me. >> the other dynamic here is the mcconnell-reid proposal. that is going to get to the floor at some point. now the idea of being that the gang of six proposal is too late to be scored by cbo to really be put into legislative language with only 13 days to go
because of the economy. does that mean we're going to have to push the big changes down the road a bit and to the long-term maybe more than ten years? >> chris, i don't know about more than ten years. certainly as you know in simpson-bowles, senator simpson and former chief of staff erskine bowles. in their report they proposed making substantial cuts, raising revenues and dealing across the board with all items of expenditure. they said in the near term, meaning the next year or so we need to be very careful that we did not have the opposite effect by dampening down the struggling economy obviously as we saw today which will decrease revenues and make the problem worse not better. in the short-term, i agree with the bowles-simpson suggestion that we be very careful in the short-term. there is no doubt, however, that in the white house yesterday or thursday there was -- that was yesterday, there was a clear agreement that this was a serious, serious challenge that confronted us. and it demanded that all of us try to come together and reach an agreement whereby we will certainly over th
. and carney saying that tomorrow is a big day and everybody has to either come to an assessment that we can do a significant deal and they were talking of course of the $4 trillion deal until the republicans pulled the plug on that last weekend, and they have to come in friday, and friday is shaping up to be something of a deadline, and meanwhile, tim geithner, the treasury secretary up on the hill behind closed doors talking about the senators of a doom and gloom scenario is nothing is done by august 2nd, and the united states has to begin to default as carney and other white house officials call it hypothetical and insists that the country will not default and some arrangement will be made, but it is not clear what the path of the arrangement may be before august 2nd, tamron. >> and what about the report that the president was mulling over a bipartisan meeting at camp david and there is a quote at nancy pelosi saying it is not a good idea many her opinion, because the rsvps have not been released as politico pointed out, but what is story here? >> well, everybody is backing away from somethi
leaders are digging in on the big sticking point of taxes ahead of tomorrow's white house summit. chuck todd is nbc's chief white house correspondent and host of "the daily rundown." chuck, we've heard a lot from republicans. today at the bloomberg breakfast it was said that any tax measures had to be revenue positive over the long run that could be ten years out. eventually have to contribute toward deficit reduction. that is not what republican senator john cornyn was saying exactly the opposite what he said on our show yesterday that it has to be revenue neutral. how does the president hope to bridge this devoid? >> reporter: well, you know, they have an interesting tactic here. they believe and frankly behind the scenes so do house republicans believe it will be easier to sell a larger deal that has some things in it that nobody's crazy about on certain sides. whether some trims to entitlements on the democratic side or some of these revenue proposals on the republican side that if it's a large deal, $2.5 trillion to $4 trillion and maybe even $6 trillion in the out years meaning th
14% in taxes and corporations pay 0%, and you raise more, you can have us a big deal here. >> they're still drawing lines in the sand that seem insurmountable with weeks to go before the august 2 deadline, congressional leaders are heading back to the white house today for yet another meeting to reach a deal on raising the country's debt ceiling. officials familiar with the negotiations say majority leader eric cantor dominated yesterday's meeting. cantor laid out what was agreed upon in the deficit reduction talks led by vice president biden, specifically $2 trillion in cuts in the next decade. the figure includes $1 trillion in discretionary spending. $200 billion in medicare and medicaid. and $200 billion to $300 billion on saved interest in the debt. >> so the military -- the military, i guess, comes in in the mandatory discretionary spending. >> military. >> sources familiar with the talks add that after the presentation president obama said the two sides might be able to reach consensus on roughly $1 pp 7 trillion. but there are still some issues to resolve. at one point in t
to ask the big oil companies to give up one dime not one dime of their $4 billion annual subsidy. they have refused to ask big corporations to give up one dime in their corporate loopholes. what we are negotiating with is a group of people who won't compromise. a group of people who have said we want the middle class to pay more taxes so that big corporations can pay less. we want seniors to lose their medicare so that big oil companies can continue to foost on their subdis. that's what the problem is. >> the case that republicans have taken a hard line on talks, at the same time democrats are taking what sounds like a hard line on entitlements. let me read a statement from leader pelosi that says we continue to oppose benefit cuts in social security and medicare. these pillars should not be used a as piggy bank to subsidize tax cuts for the wealthy. are democrats not just as guilty of failing to compromise as republicans are in this case? >> no, absolutely not. what we have said and i think most americans would agree with this is the middle class and seniors should not be asked
for a revenue hike. >> i disagree with that. >> you're still fighting that fight? >> look, the big grand bargain is still on the table. that deal is there if the speaker wants to return to the table and negotiate it. we came very close. the president and the speaker did. and that opportunity still exists. secondly, the helpful proposal senator reid put out does not include up front the tough issues of entitlement reform or tax reform, it creates a committee that would look at those issues on a fast-track basis by the end of the year. that's not possible, we prefer one that does it all at once. however this turns out if we don't get the tough issues addressed because they're essential to address the deficits and long-term debt we're going to return to the debate. because the public supports a balanced approach. it's not the right way to do this if we don't ask sacrifice from everybody. not just one sector or a limited number of sectors from the society. >> let's listen to what the president said last night, to voice support for a bipartisan deal. let's listen. >> the american people may have vote
very big, very substantial to bring our long-term deficits down over time. we have to do that in a way that's good for the economy for more support because the economy is healing from the recession. it's going to require both sides to compromise. president's bringing leaders together again at the white house this evening to try to figure out how to move forward. >> what's he actually saying? because you're hearing boehner saying they're demanding tax increases, we're not going to do that. they've also said you were pedalling a bid on whether to cut entitlement programs like medicare or social security. what's the fact? >> that latter thing is not true. the president is standing tough. he is willing to do very, very difficult things. >> like what? on medicare? >> like getting substantial savings from the budget, across the budget. defense, the rest of government, even medicare/medicaid over the long term, there are things we can do responsibly to save money in those programs and we have to do that to bring the deficits under control. but to do that, we have to have some shared sacrifice
outside the jail. what can be next for this young woman. >>> and breaking news this morning. a big arrest in the ongoing brit hacking scandal. one of the people closest to the head of newscorp taken in by police. >>> and countdown to a deal. new reports that the president and congressional leaders may meet today to try to hammer out a debt ceiling agreement. will this go down to the wire? good morning, everyone. i'm richard lui in for alex witt. welcome to "msnbc sunday." top of the hour four, after nearly three years behind bars casey anthony is a free woman this morning. the 25-year-old was released from jail in orlando just after midnight eastern time 12 days after she was acquitted of murder in the death of her 2-year-old daughter caylee. outside the jail hundreds gathering carrying signs and protests of support -- or support, rather, of anthony. inside, one nbc news photojournalist was in the processing room when casey was released. he describes what happened. take a listen. >> she was just tunnel vision to the door. and that's when i think i saw that, you know, that smile or relief,
, but this is a grave moment for the country. we need to do something very big, very substantial to bring our long-term deficits down over time. we have to do that in a way that's good for the economy for more support because the economy is healing from the recession. it's going to require both sides to compromise. president's bringing leaders together again at the white house this evening to try to figure out how to move forward. >> what's he actually saying? because you're hearing boehner saying they're demanding tax increases, we're not going to do that. they've also said you were back pedaling a bit on whether to cut entitlement programs like medicare or social security. what's the fact? >> that latter thing is not true. the president is standing tough. he is willing to do very, very difficult things. >> like what? on medicare? >> like getting substantial savings from the budget, across the budget. defense, the rest of government, even medicare/medicaid over the long term, there are things we can do responsibly to save money in those programs and we have to do that to bring the deficits under
>>> good thursday, everybody. i'm contessa brewer covering the big news coast to coast. we begin with breaking news out of texas, where authorities have arrested an army private assigned to fort campbell, kentucky. officials found bomb-making materials in his hotel room. that arrest came after someone reportedly overheard the private threatening to stage an attack on the army post at fort hood. fort hood was the scene of a deadly shooting attack in november 2009. major nadal hassan is accused of killing 13 people and wounding dozens of others. pete williams has the latest from washington now. pete, what do you know about this arrest of the private? >> reporter: right. well, good afternoon. you saw killeen, texas on that map. that's where he was arrested. he's a private first class assigned to fort campbell, but arrested in texas yesterday and according to law enforcement officials, what happened is he went into a gun store in killeen, texas and was asking questions that the gun store owner thought was suspicious. he was also buying smokeless powder which can be used for a variety
, but if a shrunken version of the boehner big does -- or if they go to an emergency extension, the president will be right back in the same predicament he's in right now. i think a lot of people are upset. they blame the republicans more than the democrats for the gamesmanship, but the fact is the republicans have also backed the president into a corner, even if they're doing it in a way that's not popular. >> i want you to analyze these two possibilities, one the president could give away more of the store, more spending cuts, maybe enough to get us thus this increase. which would make the redhots happy. no tax increase at all. the other possibility is to marry what boehner wants right now with what mcconned was talking about next year, where next year it can be are can be raised by the president, only the house would have to come back with a two thirds veto, so it seems there is a possibility for compromise, but the easiest thing is for the president to throw the whole bomb game, say, you win this year, not next year. >> i don't think he can do >> i don't think he can do that, chris. when
in this country, if we don't meet our bills, do we get into big trouble, or don't we? some people are holding out and saying, this isn't a problem we can slither through this thing. where are you on that? >> no. i think it is a problem. in fact, you know, we have slowly stair stepped our way into this mess and certainly the gop caucus, right on right crime perpetrated there with the different messages and you know, who's on top of who? who's the leading voice today? done nothing more than muddled the debate for a lot of the american people right now. you're seeing it begin to reflect in the polls. beginning to see it reflect amongst some of the other members of the caucus who are just sick and tired of not getting to a point of resolution. so i think that there are very serious people there beginning to step up with the party on both sides, quite frankly, to move the participants to a point where we can actually begin to get something done. i think, chris, there will be a deal done. the question is, right now, what exactly does it look like, and who's prepared to stand before the american people
-health clinical toothpaste. life opens up when you do. >>> the numbers are still rolling in but the big 2012 fundraising winner looks like president obama. the commander in chief has set a $60 million goal for this quarter. and michele bachmann is spending some of her money on a new ad in iowa. check it out. >> as a mom of five, a foster parent, and a former tax lawyer and now a small business job creator, i know that we can't keep spending money that we don't have. >> today the obama administration plans to announce two programs to help unemployed homeowners. usa today reports that the program would give people out of work more time to pay their mortgages. and we're less than an hour away from the players going into the cabinet room at the white house to try to figure out a deal to cut the debt. the big headline today, the president has put social security, medicare, and medicaid on the table if republicans will agree to tax hikes. it's an attempt to break an impasse. the president and the speaker have met privately to talk about the deal. let's bring in the editor and political columnist a
with markets in a bad way. >>> and then the big tease. julie yanni w giuliani. will think of these folks get in the game? the summer of speculation. good morning, thursday, july 14, 2011, i'm chuck todd. >>> and the nbc campaign team is doing a lot of prep today. doing that behind the scenes but why not to get right to my first reads of the morning, hurdling towards the huge financial calamity. ratings agency moody's put the government on notice for a possible credit downgrade. as leaders try to broker a deal, personal relationships are breaking down. president obama and house majority leader eric cantor clashed yesterday after the president frustrated by the lack of progress, saying it was time to stop postures and get the deal done. cantor went to the press telling his version of story. cantor said, obama got very agitated seemingly and sat there long enough. and no other president, ronald reagan, wouldn't sit here and he said to me, eric, don't call my bluff. democrats dispute his version of the event. one said cantor's account of tonight's meeting is completely overblown. cantor rudely i
're going to have to push the big changes to deal with the deficit and debt, going to have to go down the road a bit and to the long term, maybe more than ten years? >> chris, i don't know about more than ten years, but certainly as you know, simpson boles, senator simpson and former chief of staff irskin boles, in their report they proposed making substantial cuts, raising revenues and across the board with all items of expansion. but they said in the near term, meaning the next year of so, we need to be very careful that we did not have the opposite effect by dampening down the struggling economy, obviously, as we saw today, which will decrease revenues and make the problem worse, not better. so in the short term, i agree with the bowles-simpson suggestion that we be very careful in the short term. there's no doubt, however, in the white house yesterday, or thursday -- yesterday -- there was a clear agreement that this was a serious, serious challenge that confronted us and it demanded at all of us try to come together and reach an agreement whereby we will certainly over the next 1
>>> two big developing stories. gone to parts unknown, casey anthony, the florida woman acquitted of murder free from custody just after midnight today. we'll hear about the scene outside of the jail and talk to someone who was inside when anthony left. plus, where might she be right now? >>> the other developing story, countdown to a deal. new reports that the president and congressional leaders may meet today to try to hammer out a debt ceiling agreement. will that happen soon or go down the wire? good morning, i'm richard lui. alex witt is off today. welcome to msnbc sunday. topping our hour we'll start with casey anthony. after nearly three years behind bars she's a free woman this morning. the 25-year-old was released from jail just after midnight eastern time 12 days after she was acquitted of murder in the death of her daughter. outside of the jail hundreds gathered, carrying signs of protest or support of anthony. inside one nbc photo news journalist was in the procession room when casey was released. he described what happened. >> she was just total vision through the doo
ahead with a big deal maybe triggered in or staged later? >> i heard what the president said. i don't think business itself is bothered by the debt ceiling deal or no deal. i think what they may be bothered by is the uncertainty surrounding future tax regime that's going to be required to deal with these deficits. however, factoring into the negotiations what maybe somewhat helpful to the president in a slew of numbers that by and large are totally unhelpful is we're seeing the near term effects of cutting back in government spending. it cost jobs. not just in the government sector, but also in knock on private sector jobs as well. >> steve liesman with all the numbers and what that mean. thank you so much. good to see you, steve. republicans using the bad jobs report to scuttle any new taxes in a budget deal. joining me now virginia democratic senator mark warner a key member of the so-called gang of slight, slightly shrunk to five. still hoping senators working for months on ways to reduce the deficit. your quick reaction to the jobs report first and how it will effect the negotia
that would have included up to a trillion dollars in new revenue. it seems like the republicans talk a big game about solving the nation's problem. but they are really only interested in one thing, that's winning back the white house. mitch mcconnell said this on fox news. >> the most important thing we want to achieve is for president obama to be a one-term president. >> that is true. that's my single most important political goal along with every active republican in the country. >> joining me now, is the independent senator from vermont, senator bernie sanders. senator, thank you for being here tonight. how do you explain the republicans unwillingness to compromise to get the big deal that they said they wanted, to put everything on the table. the president said fine now they back down. >> what they said is they would like everything on the table. so long as it means cuts to social security, medicare, medicaid, the needs of our children, and the environment. all of that is on the table. but if you asked billion airs it start paying a little bit more in taxes or if you do away with loop
was no big deal for this pipeline, they can handle it. what's believed to have caused this oil spill? high waters in recent weeks that may have exposed the pipeline to debris. exxon mobile, reviewing its own safety record to make that decision is important here because it calls to mind exxon mobile's safety record. july of last year, officials notified exxon the pipeline was against violations of the law. they were in apparent violation of emergency response training, rules governing the potential corrosion of pipe, and having out of dates maps and records of the pipeline. exxon records included valves on the pipeline that no longer existed. exxon says they still haven't seen the pipe that caused the mess in the first place. exxon saying "we are very curious about what may have happened at the bottom of the river." they have to be curious about it because they still haven't seen it. again, exxon mobile is one of the most-profitable companies on planet earth. exxon is one of the most-profitable companies the earth has known in the history of people making profit with companies, yet four day
,000 donors. >> willing to go big here. >> a shock and awe report. >> what a juggernaut this was for the president. >> mr. mcconnell said the day i was elected president, to see me beat. >> now i'm not the only one who knows the president is winning. >> republicans don't have a chance. >> mr. mcconnell who waves the white flag. >> mcconnell squawks, boehner balks, and cantor woes. >> trying to win the spin game. >> the senator republican leader says hey, i got this other nifty back-up plan. >> this is a complete betrayal of the tea party. >> let's be in a position to blame president obama. >> mitch mcconnell trying to become senator majority leader. >> tea party republicans are not exactly on the same page. >> inmates are truly running this asylum. >> we cannot go on scaring the american people. >> piece of legislation. >> this is a misnomer. >> as i fumble for the acronym, it guarantees to keep the promise. >> continue to be challenged by pledges they just can't keep. >> there's something out there called the marriage vow. >> michele bachmann, who attempted to explain w
planned recess next week for the 4th of july. >> mitch mcconnell making a big deal of inviting the president for a chat with no notice with the knowledge he already had plans. >> the president said he wasn't going to change his plaque plans to meet with mitch mcconnell. >> he also invited the president to hear what would not pass. >> is it logic? the republicans are not big on logic. >> if they don't this time, the full faith and credit of the u.s. will be in peril. >> if we don't do that -- wait, what happens again? >> armageddon. >> armageddon. >> armageddon. >> democrats are saying yes to michele bachmann. >> i'm not surprised by how well michele bachmann has done. she comes across as a real person. >> real human moments. very compelling to voters. >> obama's got some magic. >> with the wink and a hug, she's made the majority of the gop field disappear. >> king james called napoleon and together decided to kill america. they sent the nina, pina, and santa maria to fight. >>> and yes to stephen colbert. >> i'm sorry to say, ladies and gentlemen, we won! [ applause ] >> it's s
>>> the big divide. congressional leaders return to the negotiating table in a few hours trying to hammer out a deal. the two sides farther apart than they've ever been. the question is, if not now, when will a deal happen? >>> the extreme heat is the number one killer in the u.s. claiming more lives than tornados, floods, even hurricanes. how bad things are getting across the country right now. >>> praying gay away. the secret videotape involving presidential candidate michele bachmann and her husband's clinic. does their business claim to have a cure for homosexuality? calling rupert murdoch, the media magnate and his son have been called before parliament to explain the phone-tapping scandal that could bring them down. >>> i'm thomas roberts. we get to president obama preparing for another round of debt talks with congressional leaders as the clock continues to tick. speaker boehner reenforced his party's message and put pressure on the president this morning. take a listen. >> this debt limit increase is his problem. i think it's time for him to lead by putting his plan on t
on to as a pass towards raising the debt ceiling. i'm sure that was an edified discussion for their big senate plan, which the president likes, but it is not the president and the senate who need to get together to decide this thing. it's the president and the senate and the drunk kids at the other end of the building who are setting their barbies on fire and cooking metal in the microwave until it explodes. watch it burn! watch it burn! honestly, time for a reality check here. house republicans are not trying to drive a hard bargain and get the best deal possible. house republicans do not want to raise the debt ceiling. for anything. they would please not like to raise the debt ceiling. they would like to go into default, thank you very much. house republicans have been actively making that argument for weeks now that hitting the debt ceiling, oh, that won't hurt a bit, who cares? republican congressman mo brooks of alabama told the washington post this week that on the contrary, all credit rating should be improved by not raising the debt ceiling, which is like saying you're looking forward
the two minnesotans continues. tim pawlenty went after michele bachmann. >> there's a big difference in talking about things and getting them done. >> this is the third day in a row where we have seen tim pawlenty heat up in his rhetoric against michele bachmann. it's clearly trying to set up the two of them as they go mono on mono for this straw poll. what is interesting, there was a republican debate before the straw poll that takes place in iowa. so instead of everyone going after mitt romney, it's clear that there's going to be a little mini debate going on. all of that in the shadow of what is going on with rick perry and chris christie showing up. lots to go through. we're going to get to that later in the show. let's get to the big story. there's one week left to raise the debt ceiling. two sides feel like they are farther apart than ever. serving on the budget committee, senator, let's start with what is on the table. can you support harry reid's plan as it stands right now in the united states senate? >> no. but i don't think that we're that far apart, chuck. if you take the
are loop hoeholing loopholings. >> shouldn't they hold firm, democrats, on this. >> this is a big step forward for john cornyn, one of the big leaders in the -- a leader in the republican senate campaign committee to suggest they're open to the idea if not in the intermediate term closing loopholes is an important first step. it suggests that you can win some of your concessions you want here. if you're going to take drastic steps to reform medicare and medicaid and social security, which i agree we should, you should also hold firm to say that some are going to have their taxes changed. if the middle class and the people below the middle class are going to make sacrifices, and all americans should. people on the upper oechend sho as well. hopefully they'll agree to a corporate tax cut and hopefully doing something incentivize businesses hiring going forward. >> we got some great segment ms ahead. and must reads. the tax issue hurts it economy to deal with this a little bit and get what the democrats want on this. i don't think it does. >> i want patrick to explain this. he never quite
is anything more than a big wet kiss to the right wing, and -- and i mean the tea party. that's who i mean. it's too bad his caucus is being run by such a small number of people. >> what will happen between this very moment and a potential vote tomorrow is anyone's guess in the town that is washington, d.c. amid all the bickering and tinkering, the nation is just six days away from a first ever general default, and the treasury reiterating in a statement moments ago there is no guarantee the government can meet all its obligations after an august 2nd deadline, so what are the remaining options for our dysfunctional government? nbc's kristen welker is at the white house and let's also bring in luke russert on capitol hill. kristen, we know both sides are crafting their budget deals, both trying to take the high road, but are there any signs that the differences between the two sides are narrowing, and does it seem as though they may conflate these two plans? >> reporter: well, at this point we don't have any indication that they are going to conflate the two plans. we should say there are, of c
the heat from the right. he still wants the big deal that would include perhaps cuts in medicare, medicaid and even social security, and with them tax increases. john boehner responded quickly. no to any tax increases, period. well, my question tonight, do republicans want to deal with really tanking the economy to say no to taxes? the face of the deadlock. the president said both sides have people who refuse to compromise. tonight one from each camp. democrat and tea party republican. i'll ask them what price they'll will be to see the country pay so they can stick to their positions. >>> also, not so excellent adventure. both michele bachmann and rick santorum signed a so-called marriage vow from a conservative group that suggested african-americans had a better family life under slavery. who writes this stuff? and worse yet who would sign on to such stuff? by the way, bachmann leads the pack in a new iowa poll, and a scandal keeps getting bigger. a report the tabloid targeted former prime minister gordon brown's voicemail and bank account. how far will this scandal go? and let me finish
toward a vote next week. the president says he still wants a big deal. but for the first time he's opening the door on senator mitch mcconnell's fall back plan which is gaining momentum on capitol hill. chuck todd was in the briefing room for the news conference. host of "the daily rundown" and luke russert. there was a movement from the president at least towards considering the mcconnell backup plan. what are the chances he still might get what he really wants which is a bigger deal? >> to me -- in a way put together to try to get through this. what you felt was the press conference was about was trying to frame the post game debate, if you will. you heard this from the speaker. suddenly they're back to distancing themselves from the debt ceiling. let's get to the debt ceiling part. we're running out of time on that. maybe there's still time to negotiate this grand bargain. that's sort of what i heard out of this. the president will sign anything that gets to his desk that seems to get through both houses of congress at this point. and then after that, maybe there's a conversat
a lot to talk about. big news over the budget and deficit reduction. president obama is rejecting calls for a short-term hike. he made a rare appearance in the press room. he's challenging them to seize the moment and cut a deal. >> i don't think the american people here sent us here to avoid tough problems. it's, in fact, what drives them nuts about washington. when both parties simply take the path of least resistance. i don't want to do that here. i believe right now, we have a unique opportunity to do something big. to tackle our deficit in a way that forces our government to live within our means. still allows us to invest in that future. >> all right. sounds good. sounds hopeful, it does. maybe something will get done, like everyone is going to come in. less than an hour after the president's invitation, john boehner missed the discussions saying a deal won't pass in the house, if it includes tax increases. he said, i'm happy to discuss the issues at the white house, but the discussions are fruitless until the president recognizes economic and legislative reality. >> that doesn't
it for someone you love. >> i mean, is a big part of the problem here convincing the american people that these cuts won't be devastating? >> absolutely it is. look, we've got a problem in this country, chris. we want more government than we're willing to pay for. and that's coming to a head in this debate over debt deficits and raising the debt limit. those ads protesting against some of those cuts to some degree help the democrats in the obama administration make the case that we need more revenue. we can't do it all on the spending side. democrats have been trying to make the case that the spending cuts they're for are not hitting beneficiaries directly, but that becomes a difficult argument to make, the more interest groups connected with medicare and the health care system get hit. >> all right. john harwood, got od to see you. i want to bring in "washington post" columnist ezra kline. good to see you. >> good morning. >> what's the dels' strategy here? >> these cuts are not necessarily new. they're on a charm offensive, i'd say, to say that, look, we've put everything on the ta
that she could catch fire. look, when you start this thing, when you win iowa, if you win iowa big, that thing starts rolling through new hampshire and south carolina, it's over in weeks. i agree 100%. >> how was she going in philadelphia suburbs? how is she going to do in the i-4 corridor and in wisconsin? how is she going to do in new mexico, arizona? i would suggest, with swing voters not well at all. >> there's no doubt if you nominate michele bachmann, it's an enormous risk. the only conditions, i think, under which i believe she could win the presidency, if people say, if they did in 1980, i don't care, i'm taking a chance with this guy because what we got we can't stand, you get 9% or 10% unemployment, two more years, this country is ready for a lot of change. more "morning joe" in a moment. with the hotels.com 48-hour sale, the possibilities are endless. interesting... save up to 50% this tuesday and wednesday only. hotels.com. be smart. book smart.  finally, there's a choice for my patients with an irregular heartbeat called atrial fibrillation, or afib, that's not cause
. they are convincing one another that it is not that big after deal. so right now the white house's big hope and i don't think it is misplace said that if we go to do doom's days on this, the hope is people that get blamed will be the republicans. >> that's option 2. that's default. i've given you two options. >> it's not default if we don't stop sending out the checks. if we keep sending out the checks, it's not default. we didn't default in '95. we just got near to it. >> does the president then say, okay, i'll agree to the republican plan? what's the third option besides default and defeat? how does he force his point of view, which is a reasonable balance, two or three to one, spending cuts to revenue hikes. >> i have no idea. i should say they're talking four or five to one. >> how do we get to there then? >> he can't. on his own we simply cannot. we live in a country, the constitution, the constitution has ultimate power. a lot of people think he could ignore them by asserting constitutional authority, but that is really dependent on the supreme court. >> am i right that it depends on one man, j
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